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Originally posted by Cowpoker
Whats the goal? To keep men from playing womens sports?


To create a chilling effect so they can roll back LGBTQ+ rights. That's how scapegoating works. Instead of dealing with the poor people in crumbling husks of abandoned coal towns, they get them mad about something unrelated like rights of a marginalized group, and then incrementally roll back more and more rights of that group, before moving on to the next group. That's how fascism works, it doesn't fix inequality, it gives you more and more groups to be mad about.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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... the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them? We knew it, it was printed in the newspapers. Who raised their voice, maybe the Confessing Church? We thought: Communists, those opponents of religion, those enemies of Christians—"should I be my brother's keeper?"

Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others. Isn't it best for all concerned if they are taken out of the middle [of society]? Only then did the church as such take note.

Then we started talking, until our voices were again silenced in public. Can we say, we aren't guilty/responsible?

The persecution of the Jews, the way we treated the occupied countries, or the things in Greece, in Poland, in Czechoslovakia or in Holland, that were written in the newspapers. … I believe, we Confessing-Church-Christians have every reason to say: mea culpa, mea culpa! We can talk ourselves out of it with the excuse that it would have cost me my head if I had spoken out.

We preferred to keep silent. We are certainly not without guilt/fault, and I ask myself again and again, what would have happened, if in the year 1933 or 1934—there must have been a possibility—14,000 Protestant pastors and all Protestant communities in Germany had defended the truth until their deaths? If we had said back then, it is not right when Hermann Göring simply puts 100,000 Communists in the concentration camps, in order to let them die. I can imagine that perhaps 30,000 to 40,000 Protestant Christians would have had their heads cut off, but I can also imagine that we would have rescued 30–40,000 million people, because that is what it is costing us now.
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i thought this thread was going to be about the one trans athlete shattering every state record but that we still have to pretend it's a coincidence, they have no inherent advantage, and all humans are equal at everything

never expected that it's all a plot to exterminate the jews
 

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Glad our resident Nazi decided to chime in.
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well, this is the jew extermination thread...
 

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Originally posted by Vuijox
well, this is the jew extermination thread...


Exactly, it's only fascism if it's explicitly the Jews. That's all you need to say. Go away now.
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Once again, everyone in this thread understands with the exception of the one person that pretends to play devils advocate.

It’s pretty simple, if you choose to understand.

Competing in sports is a privilege and also an elective program. In order to compete every person must follow the same guidelines, which include having a physical examination. Using your words, in order to participate in competitive sports, you are choosing to be violated.
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Originally posted by Luke Pass
Once again, everyone in this thread understands with the exception of the one person that pretends to play devils advocate.

It’s pretty simple, if you choose to understand.

Competing in sports is a privilege and also an elective program. In order to compete every person must follow the same guidelines, which include having a physical examination. Using your words, in order to participate in competitive sports, you are choosing to be violated.


Oh boy, a lot to unpack here.

So sports aren't that important? Privilege and an elective? Why do adults care so much about the one trans athlete? I agree, sports are dumb and the whole thing is a non-issue, it's your side making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Participating in sports is consenting to being violated? Wow, that's a hot take.
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Originally posted by Corndog
Does it? What does disputed mean? What's the range of natural testosterone levels? Genetic tests?

It certainly is very simple, I'll give you that.


"Disputed" for example would be where an opposing coach would tell the official or referee that #8 seems to have very large testicles and a hell of a beard for a tenth grade girl.

You probably should ask a doctor or biologist the other questions but I'm guessing we could come up with an acceptable definition for a girl.

 

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Originally posted by Corndog
To create a chilling effect so they can roll back LGBTQ+ rights. That's how scapegoating works. Instead of dealing with the poor people in crumbling husks of abandoned coal towns, they get them mad about something unrelated like rights of a marginalized group, and then incrementally roll back more and more rights of that group, before moving on to the next group. That's how fascism works, it doesn't fix inequality, it gives you more and more groups to be mad about.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


In what planet is restricting girls sports to girls constitute a rollback in rights for the alphabet community. As a middle aged white man, I can't play high school girls volleyball either.

So not letting she-males play volleyball in Ohio is a slippery slope to concentration camps. Seems like a rational conclusion.

 

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Originally posted by Vuijox
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I probably shouldn't off but I was:



 

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Originally posted by Corndog
Oh boy, a lot to unpack here.

So sports aren't that important? Privilege and an elective? Why do adults care so much about the one trans athlete? I agree, sports are dumb and the whole thing is a non-issue, it's your side making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Participating in sports is consenting to being violated? Wow, that's a hot take.


I think you are the ONLY one that cares about the ONE athlete. I get the feeling that the rest of us care about the thousands of athletes and they'll be required to continue to have physical examinations to participate.

The ball cupping was not pleasant but I had a harder time with having to sign a document promising not to have an occasional beer or a pinch of Copenhagen. That's commitment and sacrfice.

 

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Turns out, there wasn't really anything to unpack or was that a gay pun?
 

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So lets let trans athletes in so women can feel even more less important, you got a bunch of dude that want to be women, and that are better athletes generically then women, why would anyone want to have a women on the team...
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